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Email
from Jenny Hawkins ... Wednesday 16th May 2012
Hi to everyone
I have been very excited reading all of the information from
Judi McCarthy and then the resulting information flow
It is just great
I certainly like the idea of a family get together at Shanker
Lindsay (my husband) and I would attend, but would need a little
warning to get there from Sydney
I had a look at the menu and I wish I could be there now !!
I love the photo of Audrey, Gertrude, Norma and Laurel from 1922
... HERE
That is the great thing about this technology ... we can see
photos of wonderful quality in very close detail ... that one
is a beauty !!
Also Judi’s photo from 1873 is fabulous ... what a lovely
young couple ... HERE
I promised Geoff some photos many months ago, and forgot
When looking at the information from Judi I did remember but
not before Geoff sent a gentle reminder
So here are some
A couple of notes as well on Judi’s photos and other things
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#1 - photo #7 (HERE) being the photo of 1919 Wedding of George Watford
Ward junior and Vina Daniel notes "Ethel Ward? (wife of
John Ward?)"
Ethel died on 1st March 1915 in Perth according to a transcript
from West Australian newspaper of the time ... she was thirty
three ... John then married Nellie Rouxel in Brisbane in 1917after
meeting in Cairns, so he certainly moved around ... I am yet
to find why he was not in Adelaide with the rest of the family
and why Perth and Queensland had an impact on him ... later in
1917 they were in Lismore in northern NSW, where their first
child (Gordon John) was born
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#2 - I found via Ancestry.com
the Baptism Record for Julia and it shows her name as Julia Ann
Duxberry
Obviously this is still the interpretation of the person writing
the document at the time, but it might be the correct spelling
It also shows her date of birth as 17th July 1853 (not 1854)
... and her parents are John and Elizabeth ... this is attached
(attention - refer to note from Julianne further below)
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#3 - photo #5 (HERE) has John David Ward in back row with his wife Ethel
in front of him holding a child and then another child (names
Roland?) in front of her
I would like to know if there was a Roland in the family as it
may be Ronald who was John and Ethel’s first child
If it is Ronald and not Roland then likely Ethel is holding their
second child Harold Watford Ward ... he was born in 1904 in Perth
so this photo would be 1905 or 1906
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#4 - I would like to add to
the scandal that Judi brought up
I found a couple of newspaper items naming George Watford Ward
in regard to misconduct with Alice Uern of Ellen Street, Prospect
This was divorce proceeding brought by her husband
As this was in 1929, it would seem he was active to a mature
age
Attached is one of the articles ... the second was the same details
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#5 - I found also George Watford
Ward senior applied for a patent in 1894 for an "Improved
Herbal Medicated Bath" ... any further information on this
??
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#6 - also an article about
a boy named George W Ward discovering gold at Clare South Australia
during April 1893 ... as the dates don’t work for George
Watford Ward senior or junior, I assumed it not to be connected,
but I have added it to the other attachments
If only ... !!
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I realise that this and the
family photos I am going to send will make for a large file so
I will send to Geoff these photos and he can load them onto his
wonderful record for us all
Any one who wants the photos direct to them, just let me know
Until we find some more, I want to thank everyone for their input
and to congratulate Geoff and Sharon for the great job they have
done
I had a little information about my family and now I have so
much ... it is just great !!
Kind regards ... Jenny
Email
from Jenny Hawkins ... Wednesday 16th May 2012
Hi Geoff
You will have by now received my other email with bits and pieces
of information
I will attach the photos here which you may or may not wish to
upload ... obviously it is up to you
Funnily as I was reading Judi’s I did remember I had not
sent ones to you, and then found this email from you ... woops
!! ... sorry !!
I have been doing quite a bit of research on my mother’s
mother’s family being the Rouxel’s and not looking
at the Wards
I have tried to stay focused as I am sure you have experienced
I can see that you have been doing a lot of research and so that
amazing high of finding little details mixed with the addictive
process of just looking for another five minutes must be in you
as well
A correction to your site ... I am John David’s granddaughter,
not great granddaughter as you have listed
(attention - web site has been adjusted)
The photos I have are not too old other than one of John David
The others are from the SA family connections and so will possibly
give them a bit of a laugh ... the first one I have little idea
about
Descriptions as I know
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#1 - South Australian Relatives
... front left to right ... ?, Stuart Pfieffer (husband of Betty
Ward, second child of John David and Nellie), Edna Ward (nee
Warren) (wife of Harold Watford Ward, second son of John David
and Ethel), children ??, ?, young woman holding baby is one of
Betty’s daughters (possibly Narelle being eldest child),
?, ?, Warren Watford Ward (only child of Harold and Edna), Betty
Pfieffer (nee Ward), Harold Watford Ward
Any help with names of the other people would be appreciated
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#2 - Hutton's 1939 Christmas
at Hannay Street ... this photo was sent to me some years ago
by Audrey
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#3 - Fiona Coudrey, Alison
Stehbens, Erina Hutton, Sharon Coudrey and Julianne Stehbens
... cousins outside 30 Hannay Street ... circa 1968 / 1969 ...
this was sent to me by Audrey as well
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#4 - Betty Pfieffer, Pat Stehbens
and Vi Mitchell at Vista Street Caringbah ... circa 1975 ...
the three daughters of John David and Nellie
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#5 - John David Ward ... other
than the two photos of the George Watford Ward and Julia Ann
Family Group that you had on your site, this was the only photo
of John David ... now with the photos from Judi, we have a little
more of him
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#6 - Pat Ward and Aunty Gert
... circa 1948
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#7 - Vi Mitchell, Harold Ward,
Pat Stehbens and Betty Pfieffer at Julianne and Colin's Wedding
... the last of the children ... all now gone ... there were
seven altogether ... Melville died in 1925, Gordon in 1962 and
I have no details of Ronald
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#8 - South Australia Family
at Vista Street ... this is the time that Erina mentioned ...
Ian Mitchell (my father), Clive Hutton, Anne Mitchell (my sister),
Erina Hutton, Garth (family friend), Vi Mitchell (nee Ward),
Jennifer Mitchell (me), Audrey Hutton, Gary Mitchell (my brother)
... and I would say this is circa 1967
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#9 - Melville, Betty, Gordon
and Vi Ward ... circa 1925
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I have a few more of the Huttons
during the same visit to Sydney and also in the 1940s or 1950s,
but unless you want them I don’t want to load you with them
I hope you are all well and enjoying a much warmer time than
it is in Sydney right now ... I feel like I need to put the heater
on and sit and drink something accordingly
Thanks again ... Jenny
Note
from Alison
... Wednesday 16th May 2012
Interesting family life
Love this update on the Knowles Family Tree
Keep us posted
Well done Geoff and Sharon
Note
from Sharon ... Wednesday 16th May 2012
It is really cool isn't it, Alison ... specially when there is
some intrigue !!
I have to say it is "Well Done Geoff" ... I know nothing
... I get the updates when everyone else does !!
He is very patient and persistent ... he digs and digs til he
finds stuff
You have to remember he has also 'done/still doing' the Coudrey
Family History and his own Mother and Father's Family
Overall, a great legacy to leave the family
Note
from Julianne
... Thursday 17th May 2012
Hi Jenny
I have a mug of Julia Ann Duxbury with a date of 1872 on it
Inside the mug there is a transcript with the birth date as July
17th, 1854
The information says she was born at Leeds, Buston (hard to read)
Married May, 1874
Julianne
Note
from Sharon to Julianne ... Thursday 17th May 2012
Hey Julianne
Looks like Julia was born one hundred years before you ... bar
10 days !!
Sharon
Note
from Geoff to Julianne ... Friday 18th May 2012
Hi Julianne
Below our signature there is a note from you saying ... "I
have a mug of Julia Ann Duxbury"
One day, when you are wandering around the house looking for
something to do, could you grab your digital camera and take
a few shots of this Mug and send them to me
I am starting to put all this information together to add to
the Web Site (HERE) and would like to include this
'tank you ...... Geoff
Note
from Erina
... Thursday 17th May 2012
I was particularly interested in the reference to Ellen Street,
Prospect above, which must have been the Ellen Street we lived
in Nailsworth (adjacent to Prospect) as there is no Ellen Street
in Prospect
The houses date from 1890's to 1920's
Wouldn't it be funny if Mr Uern lived in our house ?? ... will
have to check the electoral rolls
Myrtle Street is just across the road from the Ward house ...
and is in line with our street across Main North Road and Prospect
Road if you look on Google Earth
Mum took me on a tour of the uncles and aunts' Prospect houses
when we moved here, but can't recall the addresses
Grandma worked in a shop across from the house and several shops
were owned by the family she told me ??
The Pulsford Street Baptist Church where Grandma was married
at number 62 is now converted to a house
Regards ... Erina
Note
from Judith McCarthy ... Thursday 17th May 2012
Dear Erina and Others
Francis William Ward (Mum’s Uncle Will) lived at 41 Myrtle
Street Prospect with his only child Elsa and her husband Joe
Tonkin
Joe worked at RM Williams in Percy Street, Prospect when I was
about twenty years old
As a young child I remember going to the house with my grandparents
and eating jem scones
I have never had them anywhere else except the ones I make myself
... I have never felt I could make them as well but that is memories
My Mother says that George Watford Ward senior moved from Prospect
Road to a house next door or almost next door to Uncle Will ...
we were planning to look tomorrow
41 Myrtle Road appears to still be there when looking at Google
My grandparent George Watford Ward junior lived at 55 Barker
Road ... the house was built for them by my grandmother's parents
My grandfather George Watford Ward junior purchased the shops
on Prospect Road or at least some of them from his father George
Watford Ward senior
He also purchased the land at Semaphore from him
He sold all of these later in his life
The house at Dunn Street, Semaphore is no longer standing but
I guess most of you know that as it is your branch of the family
I have a Sands and McDougall’s Directory of South Australia
100th Edition printed in 1964 but at that stage there were no
Uern’s living in Ellen Street, Nailsworth and certainly
it is not listed in Prospect
It would certainly be a fluke if you were living in it, Erina
It will be interesting to see how Mother goes tomorrow
She is very sharp on what happened yesterday but not so good
on simple things like making a sandwich or remembering to go
to her evening meal
It is just a matter of time before she will have to go into a
nursing home ... she wants to go now but she has only been assessed
as low care so this is not possible
I am taking her to her doctors on Monday to discuss all the old
age issues again ... she is also being treated by a dementia
specialist
We look forward to catching up tomorrow
Regards ... Judi
Note
from Sharon
... Thursday 17th May 2012
It's all like a big fun jigsaw puzzle !!
Note
from Jenny Hawkins ... Saturday 19th May 2012
Great job
Thanks, Geoff
Jenny
Note
from Sharon
... Saturday 19th May 2012
I did ENJOY !!
I liked re-reading the emails in order and seeing how all the
information came together
It was great reading the back of the Knowles Family Christmas
photo and seeing that Grandma and Grandpa Matheson were not yet
married and Aunty Audrey refer to Dad as Laurel's boyfriend !!
The bathing beauties is a good one too ... despite Geoff's less
than kind comments about my nose and glasses !!
Julianne and Alison ... I love the pics of your Mother and her
family
Julianne ... the one of your Mum and Aunty Gert (Grandma) looks
just like you
Alison ... maybe you take after John David ??
I love looking for family resemblances !!
After checking the dates and doing the maths, old George Ward
Senior, who was caught fooling around in 1927 and 1928, was seventy
seven when he died in 1930
You are right, Jenny ... he was active to a mature age !!
Love to everyone ... Sharon
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