Email from Wally Knowles ... Saturday 1st December 2012
My records show that John and Maria
had seven children
...............Arthur - born 4th March
1857
...............George - born 9th December 1858
...............Walter Augustus - born 12th April 1861
...............Alice Clara - born 3rd May 1863
...............Ellen Maria - born 31st July 1864
...............Henrietta - born 31st July 1864
...............Theophilus - born 31st March 1867
Reply from Geoff
If you check out Section #08 in
the Knowles Family History Index Page, you'll see that it includes
Arthur's Marriage Notice or you can see the Notice by clicking
... HERE
This states that he was the sixth son of John and
Maria ... whereas you have him listed as their first child
Just want to clarify this before making changes to this web page
Reply from Wally
Checked again but still the same
These notes are from the records of the South Australian Genealogy
and Heraldry Society
They do mention all the births at Watervale and list the right
date for Arthur
And the records spell her name Shaddock !!
Reply from Geoff
Well, that seems a major blunder
by whoever put the Wedding Notice in the paper ... or the paper
made a typo !!
Another Query
Were Ellen Maria and Henrietta twins ?? ... both listed as being
born on the 31st July 1864
Reply from Wally
Can't comment ... that's what the
records say
And it's very strange ... I've just found out they died almost
on same day
Ellen Maria on 31st July 1875 and Henrietta on 30th July 1875
... and both at Port Wakefield South Australia
Reply from Geoff
Wally wrote ... "Very Strange"
Ellen Maria |
born 31st July 1864 |
died 31st July 1875 |
on her 11th Birthday |
Henrietta |
born 31st July 1864 |
died 30th July 1875 |
one day before her 11th Birthday |
No, that's not "very strange"
... it needs a few more "Very, Very, Very Strange"
If all these dates are right, Sharon reckons there must have
been an accident of some kind during their Eleventh Birthday
Celebrations !!
Wonder what the story really is ?? ... maybe some type of childhood
disease ?? |